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This one will have many unmarked spoilers. It would also give the Lannisters some pause about making a move on King's Landing, giving Stannis (Ned's preferred successor to Robert) time to rally his forces.
Yes, Ned, taking children prisoner is in morally grey waters - but do you remember a certain Theon Greyjoy? Do remember that Theon was Ned's . They certainly didn't universally recognize him as heir. Besides, Ned's main issue was the safety of the children and the idea of shedding blood during the mourning period. The kids are innocent, but their mother isn't, and there's no reason for him to give her a chance to save herself (and cause a war with Castelry Rock). And it's not like he hadn't taken hostages before, such as Theon. Everything about that sentence equates to all of them needing to die by law.
Also, Ned's track record with convincing Robert that killing kids was bad was 0- 2 at that point. He couldn't do anything to convince Robert not to kill Dany, he had no reason to think he'd be able to convince him not to kill the Lannister bastards. It stands to reason he'd show her no mercy, and it makes even more sense he'd dispose of Rhaenys and Aegon due to their even closer connection to Rhaegar. I'm sure most people would agree that it's a darn sight harder to kill three kids you've thought of as your own for thirteen- plus years. Dubious parentage like that is why we have Jerry Springer. If Ned had waited till Robert was on his deathbed (which he couldn't do to his friend, but say hypothetically), I think Robert would only have raged at Cersei and Jaime. I don't see Robert ordering the deaths of the children, even Joffrey at that stage.
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Ned's distrust for Robert didn't come exclusively from the opinion of the king's morality (and keep in mind that Ned loved Robert and saw the best he could in him), but rather of the knowledge of his temper. He could just execute the children and come to regret it when it would be too late. I understand he didn't want to support Ned in front of the Council so as not to draw attention/suspicion to himself, but, why not just take Robert's orders, tell him the assassin failed? Why actually send the poisoner? Dany even joked that Robert owed Drogo a lordship for killing Viserys.
Varys seemed to be betting that any attempt made would simply fail; Dany was the most protected person in what was suggested to be the most powerful khalassar in the world, sending anything less than a Faceless Man would most likely result in failure. On the other hand, he did have the ace of .
Varys' plans have to be flexible. Remember: that assassination attempt was the thing that really got the Dothraki fired up for an invasion. Without it, Dany might still be chilling in the grasslands. He told Jorah about the poisoner so that he could save her and she would see that he saved her life. Having just received the warning, Jorah would be doubly suspicious and so insisted the wine seller taste his own product first.
Varys has repeatedly been shown to have a very keen sense of self- preservation. At any rate, the oath they swear about holding no titles surely mean no titles external to the Night's Watch. An organization which ideally employs several thousand people can't work if there is no sort of hierarchy. Lord Commander is just a rank (the lord part being relevant partially because it's just a generic term for a ranked person, and partially because the Night's Watch as a whole possesses lands). Also, both Varys and Hallyne are Lords even though they hold no lands or even a house. In that case it's more of an ascended joke than respect.
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Sort of like how the commanding officer of a ship is always referred to as . Cersei specifically points out that everyone called Varys 'Lord' while debating with Pycelle over Qyburn holding the title, yet she never mentions tradition. Unless there's some small moment where it's mentioned, it seems more likely that Varys was just given the title informally a sign of how much he's respected and feared. Cersei replies that by stripping him of his chain, the Citadel also released him from his vows. She brings up Varys because Qyburn is taking up Varys' old position as Master of Whisperers, therefore the ceremonial title of . You know what it's called when you do something because you've consistently done it in the past?
It's not rocket science. As far as extended materials, from the Go.
T wiki entry on Varys: . I mean, in our world, a hard winter can be enough to cause some serious starving, but when virtually the entire continent(?) suffers from extreme temperatures, how in the name of the old gods do they have even a slight chance of making it through a relatively short winter period, let alone a long one?
And with this continent wide civil war going on.. Such a glass garden is - depending on size and selection of crops) able to feed a whole castle. In winter, not 'all' of Westeros is covered in snow (certainly not Dorne). So some food must get up there. The Riverlands probably get it pretty bad, and everything north of the Neck is probably on lockdown.
The people that probably get screwed the worst are the smallfolk, but sadly no- one really cares about them. There's a difference between . I'm betting that anything south of the Neck doesn't get much worst than .
Also, in the area of Kings Landing it's probably going to be possible to raise some frost- resistant crops even during the winter. The winter that lasted an entire generation was all- around bad news, but that was 8. In the TV series, Littlefinger notes that they have enough food for a five year Winter, which is presumably a reasonable precaution. A twenty year Winter is more like a thousand year storm (and the effect of which would be apocalyptic, like Dany's vision in the House of the Undying).
Out on the Wall it is probably fairly grim, but then they can hunt animals and have other food sent up from the southern parts of the North. Certainly a few traders in the Free Cities have figured out that there's a seasonal gold mine to be had, especially since whether or not the long seasons are an entirely Westerosi concept may mean that Essos has can have regular harvests.
Unless something new is given to us with regard to information (Personally I hope there are some crops unique to ASOIAF that can grow in winter) it's unrealistic. In medieval times most people tended to survive an average winter but it still required a degree of hunger and a short Autumn or early Spring could be deadly. A winter that lasted for two years solid would kill masses of people.
A winter of five it wouldn't surprise me if it killed well over half the population and a winter of ten or twenty years would lead to almost total extinction. And that level of population loss can't explain why King's landing (Half a million) is so huge or where these relatively large armies come from. You can store grain that long but there doesn't seem to be much indicated there are ten years worth of grain stored about for every town, even if you could live on that alone. Actually, why do they measure by years, considering the main cultural point of a year is seasonal shift? They could use the moon, of course.
Or say ten lunar cycles equal a year - because ten is a more natural number to use as an increment than twelve is. Just when I thought this universe couldn't get any squickier..). You're used to the decimal system, so it's understandable that you think people might choose ten months because it is . Look at stuff like the Imperial system, and you will realize that this really hasn't been the case throughout history. People have used base- 2.
They could have made it twelve months or even thirteen, because both of those numbers are more . Without detailed reference to Westeros astronomy, we really can't tell what system they used to decide the year. Not coincidentally, they were the first to mix agriculture and astronomy in a big way.
Base ten, of course, came about because humans have ten fingers, and one of the main points of A Song of Ice and Fire is just how self- centered human beings are. Eleven sevens would not have been particularly holy (by virtue of 7. It could be argued that any multiple of 7 would do the job for a wedding, but the fact that 7 is the only number Tyrion quotes as acceptable below 7. So if their lunar cycle is the same, 1. The Earth's tilt causes less or more sunlight to hit a particular area at a particular time, so it is colder or hotter there on average.. So if the book universe has the same insolation patterns, i.
The most likely explanation for years being the same is so that we can hear that someone is 1. Or it's possible he just didn't think about it very deeply. More to the point, how do they know how long it takes their world to orbit the sun?
Do the know that their world orbits the sun and not the other way around? Does their planet orbit the sun or is it the other way around (only one planet in a star system with a moon could be said to be the center of the system)?
Are their solstices a year apart, what with the seasons being crazy like they are? Really I'm just curious how you can have a irregular seasonal structure. Stonehenge and various Egyptian structures serve as or have that function included.
It's the difference between being able to measure something and understanding how it works. And I'd also point out, the heliocentric model is a lot older than people think. If all seven are visible to the naked eye, and don't include the sun and moon this implies that the equivalents of Uranus and Neptune are closer and/or brighter than in our universe. Alternatively, the last two may only be visible through telescopes (Myrish lenses). This also, of course, depends exactly which book this was mentioned in.